Mike made his return to the Firearms Nation Podcast, where he spoke with host Arik Levy about revolvers, the Newhall Shootout, and the FBI Miami Shootout.
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Today marks the 53rd anniversary of the Newhall Shootout, and next Tuesday will mark the 37th anniversary of the Miami Shootout, so these were timely topics for discussion.
There wasn’t time to cover everything about these milestone shootouts, of course, and some important details had to be omitted for brevity, but we think you’ll find lots to appreciate in the discussion.
We hope you’ll enjoy the podcast (and forgive Mike for a few fumbles—this live stuff is less forgiving than writing!).
Remember the fallen, and the lessons they taught us. God bless you all, and be safe out there!
One of the great quotes of all time.
“It is damm hard to kill a man who doesn’t want to be killed”
Great job Mike!
2nd the motion, hurry up and get that book finished, can not wait to read it.
Thank you Sir! I need to spend less time writing here, and more time writing there. It’s a good thing I’ve got some help from my good friends to cover the RevolverGuy bases!
Great podcast Mike. I watched the YouTube version. I have long been interested in both of these shootings. Very sad times. Newhall was “The Topic” when I entered law enforcement in 1979, and I was slightly more “seasoned” when Miami happened. Both events definitely influenced my perspective on my chosen career path. I didn’t last as long as you or many of your readers, only about 10 years. But it still influences my life habits.🙂
I got your Newhall book some years ago and read it immediately. I still pull it off the shelf for another look. I can hardly wait for the Miami book you’re working on, but I know it will be worth the wait.
I don’t comment much, I think it’s been more than a year, but rest assured, I’m always waiting for the next article to be posted here. You guys all have great, informative posts. Keep’em coming.
Thanks for what you do. It’s appreciated!!
Jim, thank you so much for writing, I REALLY appreciate it. I’m thankful that my work on the Newhall book has been helpful to, and enjoyed by, so many. I’m eager to focus on this Miami book, but RevolverGuy has demanded more of my time than I’d planned. I’ll get there, eventually!
Thank you for your ten years of service. That’s a significant part of a lifetime, and nothing to dismiss. You certainly paid your dues, and we appreciate it.
Not in law enforcement and never have been.
But friends and I around the gun shop cracker barrel
never understood why the FBI basically condemned the
performance of the SilverTip 9mm.
That bullet penetrated an arm and half the torso. It’s a
surprise it penetrated as well as it did.
Even back then it didn’t seem reasonable for the FBI to
look for a round with greater recoil which could only
handicap a shooter. Seemed like the same reason .38
plus Ps were in favor over the regular use of .357s because
of the recoil factor.
Absolutely, Ed. That Silvertip did a lot better than it should have, considering it was designed to provide rapid expansion and limited penetration (in accordance with the popular philosophy at the time, reflected in the NIJ’s Relative Incapacitation Index study/model). The bullet did everything it was designed to do, and more, but it sadly wasn’t enough.
Adding to my first comment.
I seem to remember the FBI in its quest for
a better round for a while at least wanted
one that more definitely would penetrate
a human, leaving an exit wound to increase
greater loss of blood pressure.
I don’t recall the desire for an exit, but there was definitely a push for deeper penetration.
You are a good ambassador for the revolver tribe, Mike. You always represent well when someone sticks a microphone in front of you. Thank you for your extensive research and study of these two LE incidents that have had such a big impact on how we do business and how our ammo is made. You honor the Agents and Highway Patrolmen that were slain by shedding light on the lessons to be learned there. As you have mentioned, that’s the best way to keep their sacrifice from being in vain. God bless their families and colleagues.
Thank you Sir! That’s high praise indeed. I’m humbled.
So it sounds like if the agent had fired a 158 gr Round Nose from a .38 caliber revolver or 124 gr Ball from a 9mm auto the bad guys heart would have been penetrated. Fascinating . I don’t know what this means but I do find it interesting
Maybe so. Kinda fascinating to contemplate, eh?
Then again, maybe not. Murphy gets a vote, and fights are ruled by chaos theory.
This kind of stuff can keep you awake at night.
Mike:
I just read Ed Mireles book “FBI Miami Firefight.” I really appreciate your step by step analysis of the gun fight, the tactics and the weapons. This shooting, once again shows how it is so easy to blame equipment. As with your book about the Newhall Shooting you do a superb job of research. I look forward to your book about the Miami FBI shooting.
Dick
Thank you Sir! That’s mighty praise, coming from someone with such expertise and experience. I’m humbled!
Finally got to watch this. Great job, Mike!
Thank you Sir!