High Desert Cartridge Company’s Revolver Ammunition

A while back, Steve Shields, the proprietor of High Desert Cartridge Company, sent a sample of every revolver load he manufactured, ranging from .32 Long to .45 Colt. His revolver line focuses on reasonable, practical loadings as Mike detailed in his recent article.

Editor’s Note: Kevin wrapped up this article months ago, and it’s been patiently waiting its turn in the publishing queue. In the interim, Steve at High Desert Cartridge has been busy adding new options to the catalog, including (but not limited to) a 140 grain XTP short barrel .38 Special HP load, a 300 grain .44 Magnum JHP load, a 215 grain .41 Special load, and some additional rifle loads. We’ll try to catch up with some of these in a future review.

-Mike

Opening the shipping box revealed that the samples sent were in labeled Ziplock plastic bags in 25 round quantities. His ammo usually ships loose in cardboard boxes, simply labeled. Shields chooses to save money on packaging and spend it on quality components, like Starline brass. Based on the prices on the website, High Desert passes the savings along to its’ customers.

All cartridges were clean and shiny; assembled from new components. Shields utilizes jacketed, plated, and coated cast bullets in his ammunition. These choices run through his commercial Mark 7 machines better and don’t foul them like plain cast bullets will. They act the same way when you’re shooting them, and as an end user, I applaud his choices.

HExamining the samples, the care in assembly and inspection was evident. Crimps were uniform, primers were seated fully, no projectiles were damaged. My testing protocol wasn’t formal, but I tried to run each load across a chronograph and check for practical accuracy by shooting off hand groups at 15 yards. The groups were fired double action unless otherwise noted.

Starting Small–.32 Caliber

High Desert is one of the few companies loading a performance option for the .32 S&W Long. The 98-grain coated Wadcutter is a great choice for this old cartridge. It produced good results from the 432 UC and Charter Arms Professional .32 H&R. It was extremely consistent in the short-barreled J-Frame, and grouped well in both guns, keeping 4 of 5 shots in the B8 10-ring from 15 yards, offhand.

If your defensive revolver is an old “I” frame .32 Long, HD’s wadcutter would be a great choice to load in it.

If one was relying on an I-frame S&W Model 30 or 31 for defense, this load would be hard to beat. It’s controllable, accurate and penetrates well, while making a full caliber hole. It will give terminal effectiveness without crowding the SAAMI ceiling of the cartridge and putting undue wear on older guns. It produced an average of 784 feet per second (FPS) from the 1 7/8” 432UC with an extreme spread (ES) of 22, and a standard deviation (SD) of 9. The 3” Professional yielded 817 average FPS, 58 ES, and 22 SD.

This 432 UC favors light bullets with a conventional sight picture. Dropping the “ball into the bucket” allows good hits with HD 100 grain bullets.

High Desert has been a go to supplier for the .32 H&R Mag since Lipsey’s UC revival hit. Shields has been producing a .32 H&R Mag wadcutter load with the same MBC cast bullet used in the .32 Long loading. It’s running just a bit faster in the H&R Mag; it was accurate and consistent in both the 432UC and the Charter Pro.

The High Desert .32 H&R Mag 100 grain XTP load would be a solid choice for a defensive load. Its velocity is sufficient to secure some expansion from the bullet, but it’s controllable to fire from the lightest of guns. The cast 100 grain RNFP makes a good practice load to the XTP, it would also be a great choice if your .32 H&R serves as a field “Kit Gun”. My 432 UC shoots light bullets to the point of aim with a conventional sight picture. Dropping “the ball into the bucket” allowed acceptable center hits with all High Desert loadings in the little J-frame. It shot best with the WC load (making concealed hammer J-frames everywhere proud) at 15 yards. The 3” Charter Arms Professional shot all 3 loads exceptionally well.

These groups were fired with the 432 UC at 15 yards. The 98 gr. .32 Long Wadcutter on the left and the 100 gr. .32 H&R coated RNFP on the right.
This Charter Arms Professional shot all High Desert’s offerings very well.
The group on the left was the .32 H&R coated wadcutter. The Professional was cocked to single action for that group only. The group on right was the .32 H&R 100 gr. Hornady XTP fired double action.

.357 Magnum

Mike shared how Shields worked with Darryl Bolke to produce a sane .357 load, and how that collaboration helped shape the High Desert philosophy for producing revolver ammunition. Using the 158 gr. XTP at the lower end of the velocity window needed to produce expansion was a really good call. The load yielded some expansion combined with ample penetration- in a round that was controllable from a medium frame .357. What a welcome helping of common sense!

The High Desert loads hit to the point of aim with the Kimber and weren’t oppressive to shoot in the little gun. That’s not the case with most 158 gr. 357’s!

I don’t mind shooting full house .357 Magnum rounds in an N-frame or a new Python, but they’re no fun in a K-frame or J-frame revolver. I was excited to run some High Desert stuff through my Kimber K6; when it was made, Kimber regulated (and may still) the sights for 158 gr. .357 Magnums at 15 yards. Even mid-range 158’s in the 1100 fps range make recovery for follow-up shots difficult. High Desert’s loading sounded perfect for preserving older K-frames and making light weight guns like the Colt Viper shootable with magnum ammo, too.

Most people that own older K-frames don’t want to beat them up with a steady diet of Full house magnums. High Desert’s load is “old K-frame friendly”.

I ran some through the K6 first at 15 yards, offhand. The recoil was quite tolerable with both the XTP and the 158 gr. FP practice load. It had been a minute since I had shot the K6, the XTP’s impacted a little low and grouped a little wider than I hoped. The 158 TMJ practice load grouped well and impacted just below (1/2”-1”) the point of aim at 15 yards. I started to find my K6 mojo by that 2nd try- I don’t think the XTP load was to blame.

The left target is the 158 gr. XTP from the Model 66 (the author owns the two high ones). The right target is the 158 gr. TMJ from the 2” K6.

I shot them through my old 4” S&W Model 66 next. That gun shoots straight and typically gives higher velocities than my other 4” K-frames. The TMJ grouped decently, the XTP was stellar. The XTP was on course to shoot into one hole, but I had two light hits. This was not the ammo’s fault–I had been fooling with springs in the 66 and had them too light. Those two shots struck the target higher as I ran the trigger with gusto the second time around. The load should be capable of fearsome accuracy when not fired by a mouth breathing caveman.

The 158 gr. .357 Magnums were easy shooting and accurate from this Rossi R92.

Running the HD stuff through a Rossi R92 lever action with a 16.5” barrel at 15 yards felt like cheating. I shot from a braced kneeling position, both loads shot ragged hole groups with one round just out with iron sights. The Rossi gave muzzle velocities like a mid-range load from a service revolver. A lever gun can deliver these 158 gr XTP’s surgically, and as Chuck Haggard demonstrated, would work just fine for deer. If you wanted to grab one box of cartridges to feed the three of these guns, this would be it.

The High Desert loads agreed with the Rossi R92 Carbine. 158 gr. XTP’s on the left, 158 gr. TMJ’s on the right.

.38 Special

Shields’ philosophy of providing a reasonably loaded JHP with a companion plated or FMJ practice load is a sound one. He loads 125 gr. XTP’s and TMJ’s for this purpose in the .38 Special. The weight choice works in the .38, as it’s hard to drive a 158-gr. jacketed bullet to velocities that will give any expansion within .38 Special pressure limits.

High Desert’s 125 gr. XTP or 148 gr. HBWC would both be good choices in lightweight snubs like the Ruger LCR.

I have several newer guns that shoot 125 gr. bullets to the sights at common pistol ranges.  The 125 gr JHP’s also produce a tolerable level of recoil in light guns like the Kimber K6xs, Ruger LCR, Taurus Ultra Lite, and S&W light weight J-frames.  Shields also offers a plated 148 gr. hollow base wadcutter that has great appeal for defensive use in little guns. I fired each load through a two-inch, three-inch, and four-inch barrel.

All three loads were exceptionally pleasant and accurate through the four-inch K-frame revolver (I put factory springs back in my Model 66 and they all went bang- go figure). Four of the five XTP’s could be covered by a quarter, with one impacting out of the group, more likely my fault than the ammo.

The 125 gr. XTP and TMJ shined in the author’s 856 TORO.

The 856 is a TORO Model with a Holosun 407 mounted, zeroed for Federal’s 125 gr. Punch JHP. Both High Desert 125 grain offerings hit to zero and gave fine accuracy. I shot six TMJ’s from 25 yards at a Shootsteel silhouette; the group was scarcely larger than at 15 yards and impacted where I held the red dot. The wadcutters gave a tidy group just above the point of aim.

A cylinder full of the HD .38 125 gr. TMJ from the 856 TORO at 25 yards.
The 125 gr. XTP’s from the 4” 66 (L), and 3” 856 (R).

The 2” K6 kept every round fired in the black of a B8, even though I had to hold a bit high based on the sight regulation of the Kimber. I’m not sure what powder Shield’s uses with his wadcutter load, but it was extremely clean burning and the plated wadcutter left no fouling in the gun. This would be a perfect low recoil defensive load for a compact .38 revolver: especially an older Airweight like a Model 12 or Model 37 S&W that you’d rather not subject to high pressure ammo.

The left group fired from the 2” K6 with .38 125 gr. XTP; holding sights at top of the black. Right group is 148 gr. HBWC from 4” 66.
High Desert’s 148 gr. plated HBWC heads downrange at about 725 FPS from a 2” barrel. A wise choice in a gun not rated for +P stuff like this 1970’s Model 12.

.41 Magnum

The .41 Magnum came to be as a law enforcement cartridge, it has morphed into a hunting round and the ammo supply reflects that. Mike mentioned that Mr. Shields worked with Giles Stock on his .41 Mag loadings. This elicited a golf clap from me because Giles Stock knows stuff. The resulting High Desert loadings addressed a long-time gap in available .41 offerings. There have been precious few “reasonable” .41 Magnum loads available from factories since the original Remington 210 gr. SWC was discontinued. The Hunting Shack currently offers a 210-gr. hard lead SWC at 969 fps in its Cowboy Action Line. Winchester’s Silvertip is the next most mellow, rated at 1250 fps, leaving most 4” guns at 1170-1200 fps. Everything else is pushing maximum pressure; designed for medium to big game hunting and sasquatch defense. In short, they suck to shoot.

Shields now offers factory options in what used to be territory tread only by handloaders. Like the .357 XTP load, the 210 gr. XTP at 950 fps is a smart choice for defensive purposes: especially from lighter guns like S&W Mountain Guns or the 357PD.

Typical .41 Magnum factory loads are not fun to shoot in an ultralight revolver like this Scandium and Titanium 357PD. High Desert Cartridge gives viable factory options for defensive use and training.

I shot both loads through an old, nickel-plated Model 57 4” and a 357PD. The old gun has broach cut rifling and a smoother trigger than the modern 357PD with EDM rifling. The 357PD has one of the rougher actions of any of my N-frames with MIM components, and the light weight of the gun makes it even more noticeable.

Like the 357PD, the Model 57 Mountain Gun is too light to be shooting piles of full house magnums. The HD 210 gr. loads work great in these guns.

The old 57 shined with the HD loads and they were a joy to shoot. The XTP averaged 970 FPS with an ES of 9 and a SD of 3. That is a consistent load!!! The TMJ averaged 962 FPS, 44 ES, 18 SD. My notes show that I had the gun zeroed for a 210 JHP handload moving at 1025 fps, both HD loads hit to the sights.

The 210 XTP shot well in both guns tested with it. The left group was fired with an old Model 57, the right group was with the 357PD.

The XTP averaged 932 FPS in the 357PD, 42 ES, 19 SD. The Hornady bullets occupied about an inch and a quarter of target space despite the heavier trigger. The TMJ’s averaged 933 FPS, 56 ES and 19 SD. Without measuring B/C gaps, I suspect the EDM rifling is the culprit for the lower velocities in the more modern gun.  That said, I plan on adjusting the sights for the HD loads in the 357PD and making the XTP the everyday load for it.

.44 Special

I tested the .44 Special loads thru the new S&W Mountain Gun and a 2.5” Charter Arms Bulldog. The Mountain Gun shot all 200 grain bullets low due to the tall front sight. It shot both High Desert loads well, particularly the XTP load. The XTP ran an average of 769 FPS with an extreme spread of 7 and a standard deviation of 3 (no wonder it shot well!). Both rounds were exceedingly pleasant to shoot in the large frame Smith. The 200 gr. TMJ averaged 742 FPS, 53 ES and 20 SD.

The Charter Arms Bulldogs’ sights were regulated with heavier bullets and sent the 200 gr. HD loads about 4 inches low at 15 yards. groups were decent and recoil was manageable.

The Charter’s fixed sights were regulated for heavier bullets and sent the 200 gr XTP’s and TMJ’s low: 4-5 inches low at 15 yards. If I owned the Bulldog, I’d shave some steel off the top of the front sight and get these hitting closer to the point of aim. The XTP averaged 698 FPS (35 ES, 12 SD) from the short barrel. The 200 gr. TMJ averaged 656 FPS (53 ES, 25 SD). Both groups shot by the big snubby could be covered by a fist at 15 yards.

These groups were fired with the new S&W Mountain Gun. The left group was the .44 Special 200 gr. XTP. The right group was fired with the .44 Magnum 240 gr. XTP while the author was still sighting it in (hence the “leftness”).

.44 Magnum

High Desert’s .44 Magnum loads could have been custom made for Mountain Guns. The 240 gr. XTP ran 1062 FPS (34 ES 12 SD) from the 4.13” barrel. It was accurate and controllable; the recoil and blast were very manageable in the light barreled gun. The HD XTP rounds occupy the charge holes and primary speedloader of the Mountain Gun sitting on my desk as I write this. The companion TMJ load yielded 1073 FPS (38 ES 15 SD). Both loads burned cleanly and left very minimal residue in the gun.

High Desert’s 240 grain XTP is a perfect fit for Lipsey’s new 629 Mountain Gun. Having the companion TMJ load for training and practice makes it even better.

These are probably two of the more useful factory loadings available for the .44 Magnum right now. They will do most of what needs to be done with a Mountain Gun (or 329PD)- one would be well protected and could become very proficient shooting just these two rounds. The only thing lacking from that list would be a heavier bullet for deep woods defense. Shields has recently added a 300 gr. XTP at 1000 fps that would do a respectable job filling that role.

.45 Colt

I shot exactly six of High Desert’s 250 grain plated flat points through my 625 Mountain Gun. That gun has always been an underachiever with factory loads, especially with light bullets (185-220 grains). For that reason, it lives on handloads with cast bullets weighing 250-285 grains and behaves much better. It is currently zeroed with 260 grain Keith bullets (cast by my buddy Mark from Lyman Ideal mold #452424) at around 900 fps with a hat tip to John Linebaugh.

Shields’ 250 grain plated Flat Point is a great practice load for a .45 Colt Mountain Gun zeroed with 250-260 gr. cast bullets. It’s easy shooting and accurate and doesn’t foul the gun quickly.

Mr. Shields’ load stacked up in a tight cluster where I was holding the sights at 15 yards; averaging 716 FPS with an extreme spread of 22, standard deviation of 8. That’ll work.  I saved the remainder of the bag for Mike to shoot through a special single action he was testing.

6 of the .45 Colt 250 gr. FP’s through the Mountain Gun was all it took to sell the author on their performance. Good stuff.

Wrapping Up

Across the board, I was thoroughly impressed with the High Desert Cartridge Company’s ammo. The attention to detail in loading was evident, as was the quality of components used. Shields’ formula for practical working ammo fills a much-needed niche with many of the cartridges for which he loads. The best examples of that for me are the .357, .41, and .44 Magnum loads he offers.

Consider that the current retail for a 50-round box of HDCC .357 Magnum 158 XTP’s is $42.00. That’s 84 cents a round for ammo that’s purpose built to offer good terminal performance with manageable recoil.  Speer’s Short Barrel 135 gr. Gold Dot (rated at 990 FPS) is the only other factory round that I’m aware of, loaded anywhere near High Desert’s load. It costs $1.75 a round from Midway USA and is perpetually out of stock. Remington’s 125 gr. Golden Saber at 1220 fps is snappier to shoot, but usually easier to come by than the Gold Dot- at $1.60 a round.

High Desert’s ammo is an exceptional value, especially considering the applications it can be used for, and how well it shoots. Based on my experience with it, I can recommend it highly- give some a try.

*****

Featured Image: Smith & Wesson Stainless Combat Masterpiece with two boxes of High Desert Cartridge Company .38’s.

Author: Kevin McPherson

Kevin McPherson began his career as a police officer in New Mexico in 1987. He served for 23 ½ years, the last 19 ½ with the New Mexico State Police. There he worked in the uniform bureau and narcotics enforcement section and did two tours in the NMSP Training Bureau, retiring as a Sergeant in 2011. Kevin ran the firearms program and was the chief armorer for NMSP for 13 years. He served as a member of the NMSP Tactical Team (SWAT) for 10 years, eventually becoming the counter sniper team leader. He was commander of the NMSP Pistol Team and competed with a revolver throughout his career. He is a master firearms instructor through NMDPS and continues to instruct in retirement. He has had several articles published in American Cop Magazine, SWAT Magazine, and the American Rifleman, among others. He started his career carrying a revolver and has always been partial to them.

36 thoughts on “High Desert Cartridge Company’s Revolver Ammunition”

  1. High Desert’s ammo certainly appears to be the good stuff, Kevin. Since all my centerfire “snubbies” are older and not +P-rated, I prefer tame wadcutter loads for low recoil, accuracy and penetration, and High Desert’s fit that bill. Thank you for the detailed range tests.

    1. You’re welcome, Spencer! Yup, High Desert’s wadcutter will fill your need perfectly. I was very impressed with the ammo tested; Mr. Shields is putting out a good product and filling several needed niches in the ammo department.

  2. Kevin, great introduction of High Desert Cartridge Co. What I think we are seeing in the self defense ammo marketplace is the understanding that flyweight bullets going at Warp Factor 4 make a nice splat, but don’t quite get to where they’re needed.

    Shooting full power .357 in a snub gun like the Ruger SP-101 is tolerable, but after about 10 rounds, it’s time to see the orthopaedist. I don’t even want to think about it in a Scandium frame gun.

    Elmer Keith showed everyone how a large flat metplat on a hard cast semi wadcutter would perform. Now that the humble wadcutter is showing its effectiveness on the street as well as on the range, it is likely going to breath new life into such cartridges as the .32 S&W Long, and maybe other late 19th Century defensive rounds like the .38 S&W, or .32 Long Colt. It’s already proven itself on the street in .38 Special loads.

    Jacketed hollowpoint bullets designed to expand at below 900 fps can give new life to cartridges that can not be loaded hot for any number of reasons, or for guns that can not handle higher pressures.

    As a baby cop, shooting full power .357 Magnum loads was the manly thing to do, and was something of an adrenalin rush. I put a lot of those hot loads through my Combat Magnums and Mk III Troopers, but at least the Mk III was designed for such abuse. At my current age, .38 Special wadcutter loads provide the same rush, especially in my airweight snubs.

    For short barrel defensive revolvers, it’s more about the bullet. Will it do what needs to be done without being painful to handle in light weight revolvers? The powder gets it going, but it’s up to the bullet (assuming good shot placement) to do its job.

    1. Thanks, S. Bond. Something to be said for flat face bullets that penetrate adequately, even if they aren’t the latest greatest sexiest design. Good JHP’s going just fast enough to work are a great concept to maximize shot placement and speed up recovery times- huge bonus that they help keep your guns and your hands viable. I’m with you, the older I get, the more I appreciate wadcutters, too. Seems like the pain from shooting heavy loads in light guns doesn’t go away like it used to- High Desert is catering to guys like us!

  3. Really great review Sir! I think some HD 357mg and 38spec is in my future. I like using the Speer Gold Dot short barrel load in my older K frames because it is milder but like you pointed out, it is more expensive and not always available. I think HDs 38spec offerings will be a good load for my 442UC. I am eager to try some of it! Thank you again for your time and efforts to bring these reviews to us.

    1. Thank you, Mark! I think they will work quite well for the purposes you are intending. Fingers crossed that Mr. Shields can keep his prices as reasonable as they are now. It was good of him to send samples of his stuff, and I enjoyed testing all of it. Nice not to dread a hammer fall for the recoil that you know is coming!

  4. I’d like them to work on coated bullet 38 Special loads. Jacketed bullets increase pressure and when you only have 18,500 psi you work with, a bullet that creates less friction and hence more velocity makes sense.

    Btw have you noted that Tyler T grip’s web site is gone? They took me for about $50. To bad.

    1. Hey Brett, agreed coated bullets are a beautiful thing, especially in revolver cartridges with low pressure ceilings like the .38 and .44 Specials. Shields uses them to good effect in the .32 Long and H&R, so offering them in a .38 isn’t that much of a stretch. That’s disappointing about Tyler, I’d heard they were having troubles, but I wasn’t aware it was to that point. Bummer.

    2. Hey Brett, I just perused HDCC’s website and realized Mr. Shields is offering a coated SBWC in .38 Special as we speak. Good news, and hopefully more to come!

      1. Thank you for the shout out on the BK Grip adaptors, Mr. Wenger. I have not personally used one yet, but they look good (and more secure with the additional copper tabs), and your recommendation is encouraging.

      2. BK adaptors are fine though his production is very limited. I have one on a K Frame and like it. However I need one for a snubby Python and Tyler was the only possibility.

  5. The HD wadcutter and JHP loads in .32 H&R are my carry loads in my LCR; with the JHPs being in my 5 Star speed loaders for reloads.

    When I have my Colt Cobra paid off and start carrying it too, I’m undecided if I want to carry it with wadcutters or the 158gr LSWHP from Buffalo Bore, but I do intend to have one of High Desert’s .38 JHPs in my speed loaders.

    I’m sure things are getting more expensive for people who make ammo, but I appreciate that Mr. Shields has kept his ammunition prices the same thus far. I like that I can order a 50rd box from him, price of shipping included, and pay less than two 20rd boxes from some other sellers I’ve bought from.

    1. Axel, I think your LCR is smartly loaded. If those Buffalo Bores are too gnarly in the Cobra, the HDCC stuff will do nicely and give you a perfect speedloader choice. Yes sir, Shield’s pricing structure is very customer friendly, thank you for mentioning it.

  6. Please ID the stocks on the M67 and the M57 Mountain gun. Some of us are always on the lookout for the perfect grips.

    1. Hey David, as Mike mentioned, the stocks on the Model 67 were made by my friend and mentor, Dwayne Worley. The ones on the Model 57 Mountain Gun were made by Craig Spegel. As you probably know, it’s not easy to get a pair of his right now, either. Thank you for appreciating them.

  7. Enjoyable Good article!
    Despite negative remarks, I have shot my 357 for several decades with what my Brother-in-Law and I called “Hot .38-mild Magnum rounds… Nobody marketed such a thing back then, so we reloaded. We didn’t use many wadcutters back in the Stone Ages. Something I’m going to remedy. I found enough Speer Short Barrel .38 +P ammo and Golden Sabers to satisfy me, and I’m starting to convert to plated or coated rounds lately, due to increased lead hazard. I think it may have been overstated, but at 86, I take fewer chances. High Desert’s products may be just what I am looking for. Hopefully, they will not find themselves priced out of the market for us old Fudds on retirement income. Keep the good articles coming!

    1. Thank you, Carl! Sounds like you and your brother-in-law found that same common-sense level that Mr. Shields taps for his ammo. I have done likewise with the cast bullets that I use, in addition to less lead exposure, they make clean up easier, too. The coating is much easier to remove than lead fouling! Keep sending them downrange, Sir, we will try to give you stuff fit to read!

  8. Kevin,

    Thank you for another fine article. My experience parallels yours and the chrono data is much appreciated.

    I’ve settled on HDCC for comfort, quality, and price. My EDC 432 UC is filled with 32 H&R 100 gr wadcutters and the recharge is a TuffStrip holding 100 gr XTPs. I don’t run my 38/357 Js much these days but they get 148 gr wadcutters when I do. My 2-1/2 inch S&W 19 really liked High Desert’s remanufactured 38 Special 125 TMJs in a class the other day. Think I’ll give their 125 XTPs a try as a carry load. Finally, my 3 inch Wiley Clapp GP100 plants HGCC 158 XTP DB Loads dead on at 15 yards – the mildest 357 load that shoots to this Ruger’s fixed sights.

    Doing online business with HDCC is simple and quick and I like the idea that I’m not paying for fancy boxes and plastic trays that get thrown in the trash bin.

    Desert Cartridge Company is a hotbed of sensible innovation delivering reasonable performance without pain to the hand or the wallet.

    1. You’re welcome, Michael! I’m glad you got something out of the data. I salute your choices in carry ammo in your .32’s and .38’s, and I had a similar experience with the .357 load in that K6S, it put a smile on my face. That load is nothing short of brilliant and (in the crystal clear lens of hindsight) I’m amazed it took this long for someone to come up with it. So, golf clap to Shields and DB on that one! Your last two comments are a nice testimony for HDCC, the last sentence being particularly quotable- ” a hotbed of sensible innovation…” Love it!

  9. First time posting here. I purchased some .357 and .41 mag ammo from High Desert a few months back after reading your first article. All I can say is “Thank you!” The ammunition is just excellent and is loaded to specifications that show a real understanding of defensive requirements. Funny, after carrying 1911s for 50 years, I find myself shooting my revolvers more these days. High Desert Cartridge is an integral part of that now!
    DVC

    1. Thank you for writing in, W.M. and glad you decided to try some of HDCC’s ammo after Mike highlighted it. Shields and his team keep a high standard in their production and make ammo that works great for defensive use. His loadings in the .357 and .41 are likely the best choices available for most people and most guns used for that purpose. I think Jeff Cooper would approve of your TDY to revolver usage and you using High Desert ammo to accomplish that mission!

  10. Off-topic, but I wanted to flag up two grip makers you might be interested in.
    One is Recoil Rider, doing high-horn cushioned rubber grips for carry for a bunch of popular concealed revolvers (along with a rubberized cylinder release for J-Frames).
    The other is RevolGrips, doing REALLY high-horn grips by opening the sinus back up, so you get a full 3-finger grip but a lower bore axis and less overall height. (I have one in the mail right now)

    1. Kris, thank you for the info! I wasn’t familiar with either of these companies, but they both look very promising! Please keep us posted on your thoughts when you get a chance to run the RevolGrips. We may have to reach out and see if we can test some too! Thanks again.

      1. Impressions so far:
        The RevolGrip for the LCR seems to be well made. The finish and texturing look and feel great.
        Very light, I believe it’s 3D printed nylon of some sort. No idea how the strength and durability would compare to other polymer designs, or whatever laser-sintering thing Hamre Forge is doing, but I’m not in the habit of bashing my revolver grips against things, so I’m not concerned.

        As advertised, they offer a full finger grip on the gun, with your hand *high* on the backstrap, but add only maybe a quarter inch to the overall height compared to the Hamre Forge 2-finger grip. I would have no issue carrying these in a pocket, and getting a full grip *is* pretty nice.
        I also really like the “hump” created by the top of the backstrap, since I draw like Rhett Neumayer with my thumb clawed over the rear to seat my hand high on the gun. The hump gives a nice purchase for my thumb compared to the rounded slope of an LCR, but the edges are nicely beveled, so no discomfort when carrying appendix.

        Overall, very positive impressions so far.
        I will probably be sticking with my Hamre Forge grips for a number of reasons.
        – All of my LCRs are in .22LR, so recoil-reduction techniques are less important.
        – I am making use of the Hamre Hook a lot around the house, and don’t want to lose that (I also like how it keeps the rear of a pocket holster open, so it doesn’t try to come out with the gun)
        – I have very large hands and big knuckles. I have to do my own undercuts on any Glock I use so I don’t get blisters. The LCR has less space in the sinus than other revolvers (you can see the difference between the LCR and something like a J-frame in the images on RevolGrips’ site; the J-frame looks like it has half-again as much space), so while my knuckle isn’t snagging, and certainly isn’t causing any pain or anything like that, I *would* want to adjust my technique if I were going to use these regularly. Considering that 2-out-of-3 of my LCRs are going to continue to wear Hamre Forge grips, I opted to leave all three the same just to make training consistent.

        Nevertheless, the RevolGrips seem like a well-made and well-thought-out option, and if/when I get a J-frame I will *definitely* be revisiting them.

        1. Kris, I appreciate you bringing these to my attention, and also appreciate the great feedback. I’ve reached out to both companies, and hope to learn more about these interesting products. You might see more of them here on RG in the future!

          1. I now have a J-Frame (351C, in case Federal ever stops making 22LR Punch) and absolutely love the RevolGrips on them. All I needed was the slightly bigger sinus for my huge hands.
            I actually prefer the RevolGrips over the HamreForge AFR grips (though those are still a huge improvement over the factory stocks)

    2. A set of RevolGrips enr for the RB K frame. They look like a combination of the Herrett’s Shooting Ace and the Trausch grips that show up on French police revolvers.

      The test mule will be an M13 3″.

  11. I ordered a bunch of different revolver loads from HDCC and they’re phenomenally accurate and pleasant to shoot with a proven bullet design. I switched to them for my carry loads in my revolvers across the board

  12. I have purchased some .32 wadcutters from High Desert for my 432UC and currently carry it as a backup. I will be buying more ammo from High Desert for Revolver Fest coming up.

  13. Very cool, Bruce! That load is good for practice and defensive use in the UC. Easy shooting, accurate, low fouling, and enough penetration to take care of business. I hope you have a ball at Revolver Fest, that should be time and money REALLY well spent. Enjoy!

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